We are not royalists. We are not owned. Never, never bend the knee. Sometimes you have to be proud that you are doing the right thing. It adds startch to the backbone.
I was in my home town library back in the 80s and I happened upon a book promoting atheism. I’m not religious, but I was very upset about this. It was in the CHILDREN’S Section!!!! I almost took it out of there and I still regret not doing something about it. My daughter was a youngster at the time.
It’s great to explore philosophy and be exposed to those things when you are at the appropriate age. Not harmful at that point. The opening two pages of the book said that there’s Nothing after death. To my way of thinking that’s a scary thing for a child to read. I just didn’t want scary books in the children’s section.
Hitler was a despicable human being who propagated atrocities. But let's not forget that he launched an ran one of the most successful dictatorships in modern history. He was stopped primarily because the rest of the world beat him back (as opposed to similar situations where the dictatorship eventually imploded on itself), but he got Germany to follow him absolutely and when he says, "this is how you control a country..." he knows what he is talking about. I can despise Hitler and Marx but still be aware that they were brilliant people who knew what they were talking about, had an objective, and worked to get there (I just hate what their objectives were).
Outrage reactions are exhausting. Free Speech - I still believe in it. Technically is there hate speech? There are things probably one shouldn’t say out loud but I don’t trust anyone in power today to decide what hate speech is. Sorry Prager U wasn’t good to you. I like their content. They try. Your points in the article are valid. Welcome back!
Assuming woke can be ended by means of the democratic process, defeating wokeness will require changing people's minds. Sadly, a majority of Americans still support the secular religion of diversity, equity, inclusion and anti-racism and the other secular religion of gender-identity ideology and all that's associated with it.
Most of the people who support woke and trans are left of center: centrist and liberal Democrats, progressives and the misfits to the left of the progressives. MAGA and right-of-center independents alone can't end wokeness or the trans cult in America. The numbers probably aren't there.
The messenger matters as much as the message when it comes to persuading people to change their views. If Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Bidenh gave an address tomorrow denouncing wokeness, it's safe to say the effect on wokeness would be shattering in the long run even if it didn't break its back immediately.
What was it John Lennon said: "If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow."
Most left-of center supporters of woke won't listen to gender-critical arguments even if they come from a gay Biden-voting Democrat. Or at least not this one.
Whether Moms for Liberty was right or wrong in quoting Hitler is the wrong question.
The question is whether or not quoting Hitler advanced the cause of ending wokeness and the trans cult among the segment of the population most in need of being persuaded that both phenomena are bad for society.
The answer to that question must be no, quoting Hitler - even when the quote was spot-on and in no way related to National Socialist ideology - did not make left-of-center voters more receptive to gender-critical arguments. In 2023 the civilized world is not prepared to try to find good in what Hitler said (the very prospect is repugnant) and separate it from the thinking that unleashed the Holocaust. Hitler is political poison, and if he's not, then you're hanging out with the wrong crowd.
There's one saving grace: Even before the Hitler quote, Moms for Liberty almost certainly had no credibility among the left who were aware of the organization, not even moderate, centrist Democrats. So it's not as if the cause has lost a great ally.
....No there is woke on both the right and the left, it is not just on the left. There are plenty of MAGA people who are woke. More now, I would argue, than in 2020.
We are not royalists. We are not owned. Never, never bend the knee. Sometimes you have to be proud that you are doing the right thing. It adds startch to the backbone.
I love this Cyn!
Thank you. I've lived this way for 61 years. :)
Exactly right.
Very good points, Karlyn! Thanks!
I was in my home town library back in the 80s and I happened upon a book promoting atheism. I’m not religious, but I was very upset about this. It was in the CHILDREN’S Section!!!! I almost took it out of there and I still regret not doing something about it. My daughter was a youngster at the time.
I mean.....atheism isn't going to hurt anyone....
It’s great to explore philosophy and be exposed to those things when you are at the appropriate age. Not harmful at that point. The opening two pages of the book said that there’s Nothing after death. To my way of thinking that’s a scary thing for a child to read. I just didn’t want scary books in the children’s section.
Hitler was a despicable human being who propagated atrocities. But let's not forget that he launched an ran one of the most successful dictatorships in modern history. He was stopped primarily because the rest of the world beat him back (as opposed to similar situations where the dictatorship eventually imploded on itself), but he got Germany to follow him absolutely and when he says, "this is how you control a country..." he knows what he is talking about. I can despise Hitler and Marx but still be aware that they were brilliant people who knew what they were talking about, had an objective, and worked to get there (I just hate what their objectives were).
Don’t apologize. Don’t bend the knee. ever ...
23 years ago I refused to bend the knee and apologize .. a broke ass person with nothing..
you don't know what you can do tell you do it...
Outrage reactions are exhausting. Free Speech - I still believe in it. Technically is there hate speech? There are things probably one shouldn’t say out loud but I don’t trust anyone in power today to decide what hate speech is. Sorry Prager U wasn’t good to you. I like their content. They try. Your points in the article are valid. Welcome back!
The quote was exactly right. Hitler may have been a totally despicable and morally bankrupt person but he wasn’t stupid.
Assuming woke can be ended by means of the democratic process, defeating wokeness will require changing people's minds. Sadly, a majority of Americans still support the secular religion of diversity, equity, inclusion and anti-racism and the other secular religion of gender-identity ideology and all that's associated with it.
Most of the people who support woke and trans are left of center: centrist and liberal Democrats, progressives and the misfits to the left of the progressives. MAGA and right-of-center independents alone can't end wokeness or the trans cult in America. The numbers probably aren't there.
The messenger matters as much as the message when it comes to persuading people to change their views. If Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Bidenh gave an address tomorrow denouncing wokeness, it's safe to say the effect on wokeness would be shattering in the long run even if it didn't break its back immediately.
What was it John Lennon said: "If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow."
Most left-of center supporters of woke won't listen to gender-critical arguments even if they come from a gay Biden-voting Democrat. Or at least not this one.
Whether Moms for Liberty was right or wrong in quoting Hitler is the wrong question.
The question is whether or not quoting Hitler advanced the cause of ending wokeness and the trans cult among the segment of the population most in need of being persuaded that both phenomena are bad for society.
The answer to that question must be no, quoting Hitler - even when the quote was spot-on and in no way related to National Socialist ideology - did not make left-of-center voters more receptive to gender-critical arguments. In 2023 the civilized world is not prepared to try to find good in what Hitler said (the very prospect is repugnant) and separate it from the thinking that unleashed the Holocaust. Hitler is political poison, and if he's not, then you're hanging out with the wrong crowd.
There's one saving grace: Even before the Hitler quote, Moms for Liberty almost certainly had no credibility among the left who were aware of the organization, not even moderate, centrist Democrats. So it's not as if the cause has lost a great ally.
....No there is woke on both the right and the left, it is not just on the left. There are plenty of MAGA people who are woke. More now, I would argue, than in 2020.
Thank you - that makes it all the more important not to alienate the public gratuitously.