Disturbing. Have any of the gestational donation theory advocates presented any serious evidence regarding the probable long-term psychological, emotional and other impacts on all involved persons?
Feb 6, 2023·edited Feb 6, 2023Liked by Karlyn Borysenko
Thanks, @karlyn. As I believe you’ve already pointed out in some way in your collective posts, there are core issues (intellectual, ideological, etc.) of which this (gestational donation) is a manifestation.
Here are a few examples:
1) perceived authoritative license to present and implement ideas that pose significant individual societal impact but not presenting commensurate evidence to support probable favorable primary and collateral outcomes.
2) failure to acknowledge and clearly delineate all potential causes of a presented problem.
3) failure to objectively acknowledge, evaluate and consider alternative solutions to the presented problem.
4) failure to present compelling evidence that the proposed solution is the best solution among all possible solutions.
Compounding the issues is the apparent prevalent acquiescence of professional misconduct by those in positions of oversight and consequential reckless absence of accountability.
As someone who just had a baby, the thought of just handing my son over to the state to give to whoever they think deserves him is awful. On a primal level I hate this idea and want to fight it.
On a intellectual level I understand the reasoning. They want complete loyalty to the state and only the state. It makes me wonder when they will go after homeschoolers. If Marxist can outlaw homeschooling, they will have complete control over programming children and getting rid of the family will be next would be my prediction.
I’m going to re-read this several times to let it all sink in and truly absorb. Upon initial reading, I thought of the “men can get pregnant” claim that has been pushed lately and reacted to by conservatives. It seems to be a distraction. While conservative Christians react, screaming and clutching their Bibles, these abstracts lay the groundwork for taking the initial “shock!” claim and working backwards to rationally explain, through a Marxist lens, how that claim is viable and beneficial to society. I’m not going to deny my own reaction of disbelief...you should have seen my eyes riding the subway from work...but it’s important to read and understand these ideas. There are still things I’m learning and trying to form beliefs about, as I have just recently started following your work and some of your streams via YT (the 13-hour time difference is limiting), but I will continue to listen and follow. Thank you, Dr. KB! As always, I appreciate your aims and admire your principles.
Disturbing. Have any of the gestational donation theory advocates presented any serious evidence regarding the probable long-term psychological, emotional and other impacts on all involved persons?
I'm pretty sure not.
Thanks, @karlyn. As I believe you’ve already pointed out in some way in your collective posts, there are core issues (intellectual, ideological, etc.) of which this (gestational donation) is a manifestation.
Here are a few examples:
1) perceived authoritative license to present and implement ideas that pose significant individual societal impact but not presenting commensurate evidence to support probable favorable primary and collateral outcomes.
2) failure to acknowledge and clearly delineate all potential causes of a presented problem.
3) failure to objectively acknowledge, evaluate and consider alternative solutions to the presented problem.
4) failure to present compelling evidence that the proposed solution is the best solution among all possible solutions.
Compounding the issues is the apparent prevalent acquiescence of professional misconduct by those in positions of oversight and consequential reckless absence of accountability.
As someone who just had a baby, the thought of just handing my son over to the state to give to whoever they think deserves him is awful. On a primal level I hate this idea and want to fight it.
On a intellectual level I understand the reasoning. They want complete loyalty to the state and only the state. It makes me wonder when they will go after homeschoolers. If Marxist can outlaw homeschooling, they will have complete control over programming children and getting rid of the family will be next would be my prediction.
Wait till your social credit score doesn't measure up and they induce a coma. It all comes down to supply and demand.
Just why? It’s almost like they’re trying to remove that bonding experience females get while pregnant. Can we make Orwell fiction again?
Read the article. They don't want you to be bonded with anyone except the state.
I’m going to re-read this several times to let it all sink in and truly absorb. Upon initial reading, I thought of the “men can get pregnant” claim that has been pushed lately and reacted to by conservatives. It seems to be a distraction. While conservative Christians react, screaming and clutching their Bibles, these abstracts lay the groundwork for taking the initial “shock!” claim and working backwards to rationally explain, through a Marxist lens, how that claim is viable and beneficial to society. I’m not going to deny my own reaction of disbelief...you should have seen my eyes riding the subway from work...but it’s important to read and understand these ideas. There are still things I’m learning and trying to form beliefs about, as I have just recently started following your work and some of your streams via YT (the 13-hour time difference is limiting), but I will continue to listen and follow. Thank you, Dr. KB! As always, I appreciate your aims and admire your principles.
Watch the episodes of socialism Saturday that I linked. They will show you.
I’m in the middle of your last one...the small podcast that you found with the man and woman...about anti-capitalism.